Comments on: Interview with Wisconsin Public Radio on Education Secretary Arne Duncan and the future of public education in the U.S. http://www.andykroll.com/uncategorized/interview-with-wisconsin-public-radio-on-arne-duncan-public-education-in-the-us Welcome to AndyKroll.com! Here you can find Andy's past published articles, daily commentary and reporting on his blog and an open invitation to discussion and criticism on his writing, the day's events or anything else on your mind. Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:31:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brian http://www.andykroll.com/uncategorized/interview-with-wisconsin-public-radio-on-arne-duncan-public-education-in-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-18 Brian Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:22:11 +0000 http://www.andykroll.com/?p=181#comment-18 And if I could just add another comment... the guest following you, Timothy Knowles said that Duncan is data driven in setting policy. Well, how could that be? In some schools Duncan signed off on paying kids for grades as you mention and the research is in: as Alfie Kohn notes in his 1993 book, Punished by Rewards, this is an idea that has already been tested and it failed. Paying kids for grades doesn't work as many studies have shown. See page 270 up the 1999 edition. So, is this the Duncan method? Try things that have already been proven failures? And if I could just add another comment…
the guest following you, Timothy Knowles said that Duncan is data driven in setting policy.
Well, how could that be?

In some schools Duncan signed off on paying kids for grades as you mention and the research is in: as Alfie Kohn notes in his 1993 book, Punished by Rewards, this is an idea that has already been tested and it failed.
Paying kids for grades doesn’t work as many studies have shown.
See page 270 up the 1999 edition.

So, is this the Duncan method? Try things that have already been proven failures?

]]> By: Brian http://www.andykroll.com/uncategorized/interview-with-wisconsin-public-radio-on-arne-duncan-public-education-in-the-us/comment-page-1#comment-17 Brian Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:54:26 +0000 http://www.andykroll.com/?p=181#comment-17 Good job on analysis. However, be careful about crediting improvement in learning based on test scores. Have you seen the students performance exhibitions, portfolios of work and results of teacher created assessments? Without these more important pieces of student assessment any picture of achievement is largely incomplete. Good job on analysis.

However, be careful about crediting improvement in learning based on test scores.

Have you seen the students performance exhibitions, portfolios of work and results of teacher created assessments? Without these more important pieces of student assessment any picture of achievement is largely incomplete.

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